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Post by eyesoflove on Jan 22, 2008 13:34:30 GMT -5
LOL The verses have some pretty low notes in them and my voice is naturally a saprano, meaning my natural register is high. My sister is an alto, meaning her natural register is on the lower end of the female range. Patsy Cline is a good example of that and Shania Twain has a fairly low register. Someone like Dolly or Alison is a good example of a saprano. Often times, karaoke tracks aren't made in the same key as the original singer if it's higher than the general population would need it. For example, that same site has "I Am Weary" in the style of the Cox family and Suzanne Cox has a really high range, so the karaoke track is way below the key that she sings it in. It sucks for people like me who share that same range. Years of singing and pushing my limits has helped me to broaden my range on both ends of the scale, so I can do the lower notes, but in some songs (like "I Give You To His Heart") it's a bit more challenging for some reason. But that's why I'm learning to play the guitar...so I can ditch the karaoke tracks and get the key that I need! lol
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Post by houseghost on Jan 22, 2008 13:43:44 GMT -5
A beautifully done tune. I hope to hear more from you.
houseghost
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Post by tal on Jan 22, 2008 15:34:37 GMT -5
Thanks so much Stacy! Thanks to the examples that explained it really clearly! Nice to learn something on the theory of music! 
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Post by eyesoflove on Jan 22, 2008 23:20:50 GMT -5
Thank you so much, houseghost!! I'm working on expanding my You Tube stuff, but as a beginner guitarist...well, it's pretty hard to listen to at this point lol. You're welcome, Tal  . As I was listening to AK's version of the song, I'm thinking that she may actually do it in Bb (B flat). That can be a tricky key for some instruments and might explain why the karaoke folks settled on B lol. I frequently sing in Bb and E and it gives our fiddle player nightmares lol.
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Post by tal on Jan 23, 2008 13:06:04 GMT -5
So, if you are willing to  please explain that. You say you think Alison sings it in Bb but if gives your fiddleplayer nightmares if you do that! Doesn't that mean Alison is giving herself nightmares?  and why is that a tricky key for most instruments? I find this stuff fascinating but if you don't feel like explaining...I completely understand! Just say so . 
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Post by tal on Jan 23, 2008 16:31:44 GMT -5
Thank you so much Stacy! I think that helped me a lot in understanding your comment but also in understanding more theoretically what I am listening to. Especially since you gave the songs as example! I found out a lot about the theory of fiddle/violin playing from Wiki and you have taught me even more now!  Very kind of you to take the time! 
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Post by turbo on Jan 23, 2008 16:37:44 GMT -5
You two should get a chat room!!!! LOL
Say Tal, I feel I must respond to a comment you made, that some people respond to God out of fear. Whenever that is the case, it is because the person or persons involved have an imperfect understanding of our Creator. He wants us to LOVE Him, and do what He asks of us out of that love, and not out of fear! Because he loves all of us, you included, much more than we can even understand. The only ones that should fear Him are those that willfully disobey Him after they have understood about Him. (I'm not stating it as eloquently as I'd like, but hopefully you get the picture.) Not believing in God is like not believing in air. Whether you believe in Him or acknowledge Him or not does not change the reality that not only does He exist, the fact is you could not exist, you could not take your next breath, without Him. Apparently you have believed the lies fed to you by the popular newsmedia and schools, which by the way are under the control of God's temporary (soon-to-be-destroyed) enemy Satan.
I would gently suggest to you that you ignore all commentaries pro or con that you have ever ingested regarding the Holy Bible, and pick it up and start reading it in your spare time as you would read any good book. If you like, take it at first as a novel. As you read you will slowly begin to get to know its Author. For beginners I would suggest starting with the New Testament, it is a much easier read. If it moves you, later you might tackle the Old Testament with some background of understanding.
There are many people in this world who do not believe in, or refuse to acknowledge, their Creator. Unfortunately these are the people who are destroying our world, or trying ineffectually to save it, because they are living contrary to their nature. We were made by God and for God, and to try to live separate from Him is to fight uselessly against nature. It's like trying to use lemonade instead of motor oil to lubricate your car's engine. It goes against it's nature.
Hopefully you will gain some insight with time. You do not know all that you need to know yet.
Friendly greetings!!!
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Post by turbo on Jan 23, 2008 16:44:10 GMT -5
Tal, a footnote to what I just wrote - try to get a better translation of the Bible than the King James. Its archaic language discourages most people. The New International Version or the New American Standard are re-translated quite recently from the original languages and are much easier to read and comprehend.
Hopefully you will give it a try, with an open mind and no pre-conceived biases as you begin to read. (It's also available in other forms, DVDs, books on tape, etc.)
Evolutionists say they can prove their case scientifically, but those who believe the Bible's accounts can also do the same, but in today's anti-God-biased system they are not given equal time to prove their case.
If you understood all the wonderful things that God has in store for those who believe in Him and trust him, both now and later, that will be denied to those who denied Him, you would be amazed at how you nearly missed out!!!
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Post by turbo on Jan 23, 2008 16:44:56 GMT -5
One last thing - if you could sit down and talk for a while with Alison, she would tell you these same exact things.
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Post by tal on Jan 23, 2008 17:27:32 GMT -5
Hey Turbo! First of LOL! on the chatroom! I sure hope our conversation did not give anybody a feeling of exclusivity? I guess not since you also decided to join it.  As for my remark on people following god out of fear...I just observed that some people do! I did not mean to imply all believers do! And as for reading the bible...I was raised on the childrens version of it's stories and I do not know the King James version. I am Dutch and I am familiar with the official dutch reformed translation. In fact it is in my bookcase alongside the torah in english and hebrew. ( Admittingly though I do know the hebrew alphabet and a bit of modern Hebrew I cannot read the hebrew version  ) Along side these two versions I also have the "witches bible", a "treatise on white magic" and I have also read stuff on bhuddism and judaism! I flatter myself in thinking I am pretty open minded as far as religion goes. ( or many other subjects for that matter:) ) I am afraid I cannot find proof for the statement that the existence of god is a fact! Anymore that I can find proof for stating that it is a fact god does not exist. And is that not why it is called faith and is that not the leap "god" according to the bible wants you to make? Now personally I believe in a creator but I have a feeling my concept of this creator rather differs from your view.  Maybe I am wrong in this but I just surmise this from for instance your mention of satan. I do not know if you ever read anything on Kabbala but that is more my view of "god" if you will than the general christian view as I understand it. If I misunderstand your view of what /who god is please feel free to correct me!  In general I came to the conclusion all or at least almost all religions have the same basic concept at heart and it's the interpretation of that basic concept which differs resulting in different rules! I tend to believe in the basic concept and prefer to go with my own interpretation!  I also think if I ever would decide to commit to any religious system out of all major religions I would most definitely go with judaism.  Hope that explains a bit more where I am coming from?  I am btw curious why you assumed I am unfamiliar with the bible?
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Post by tal on Jan 23, 2008 17:34:34 GMT -5
oh, I have to add that what I have seen of Alison Krauss she seems to me to be a very private person! So unless you yourself have actually had a conversation with her on this subject, I really feel you should not presume to speak for her! Personally I feel that is both presumptuous and rude! I would love to sit down and talk with her though! But I think I would cover other subjects first 
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Post by turbo on Jan 24, 2008 1:05:25 GMT -5
Tal, I have seen televised interviews with Alison in which she was asked about her faith (these interviews happened on British and Irish stations while she was touring over there, but I have these interviews on DVD) and she quite openly professed her belief in and relationship with Jesus Christ. THAT'S how I know what she would say. Her friend Ron Block writes great articles on all things in this vein, you should check out his website and his "writings" page. I guess that I will no longer try to convince you of anything, you go ahead and wager your eternal existence on whatever you choose to wager it on. Just remember that once the bet is placed there is no going back, and no second chance to bet.
With Love in Christ, the one and only true Way and Redeemer, --Art
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Post by tal on Jan 24, 2008 1:51:24 GMT -5
Turbo, I just take issue with you speaking for her or anybody else than yourself for that matter, on any subject! Clearly she is a christian but, I personally doubt she would say what you said. I base that on the fact that people who speak like this to other people are not as generally and genuinely liked by so many different minded people! But that's just my opinion  But maybe you have a link to any of these interviews so I could see this with my own eyes? As for Ron Block...I will check out his writings! So far I only know his view from his songs I heard Alison sing and I gotta say he doesn't sound like you either! As for my eternal existence...I am fairly confident that to wager it, should I wager it, on judaism is a safe bet!  After all, they are the chosen people. so you know, I think I would be ok going with that! Since we are exchanging tips on reading the bible though...may I suggests you check out the bits on judging others and to whom you should leave that judging!  Anyway, thanks sincerely for your attempt to save my soul! And thanks equally for your deciding to give up on that attempt!  Anyway by your standards, I think that ship sailed many years ago! 
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Post by tal on Jan 24, 2008 2:32:21 GMT -5
Well, I read several of Ron Blocks writings and as I see it, you are not speaking for him either! Maybe you just are not very good in conveying these ideas or maybe you do not really get them...I do not know but I think you are doing both him and Alison a disservice when you claim to speak for them! Just my opinion mind you! 
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Post by fogcitygal on Jan 24, 2008 3:48:03 GMT -5
Hey guys, since I believe this is a music board about Alison Krauss and Union Station and not a board about our spirtual beliefs, can we please limit the board to postings about AKUS and music and leave the religious debates for emails or private messages?
While I appreciate the first amendment and could easily respond to both of you in your debate, I think it is both rude and inappropriate to do so here. You are also taking up a lot of room debating on this board which our generous site-host pays for out of her own pocket. Emails may be the way to go for such a lengthy dialogue in the future.
Thanks!
~Ilene (foggy)
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